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		<title>By: truthguy</title>
		<link>http://whining.weaselhut.net/2008/01/23/bad-cop-no-doughtnut/comment-page-1/#comment-11073</link>
		<dc:creator>truthguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several of the commenters seem to be of the opinion that because this child had made  a mistake , that the officers in question no longer need to uphold the law, and instead may punish her in any was they want with complete disregard for the law. I think the results of the lawsuit speak loud and clear. Police officers are not allowed to &quot;met out punsihment&quot; with complete disregard for the law. I think the other commenters should take note, you are not above the law because you think you are better. You must obey the laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several of the commenters seem to be of the opinion that because this child had made  a mistake , that the officers in question no longer need to uphold the law, and instead may punish her in any was they want with complete disregard for the law. I think the results of the lawsuit speak loud and clear. Police officers are not allowed to &#8220;met out punsihment&#8221; with complete disregard for the law. I think the other commenters should take note, you are not above the law because you think you are better. You must obey the laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Catharina</title>
		<link>http://whining.weaselhut.net/2008/01/23/bad-cop-no-doughtnut/comment-page-1/#comment-8604</link>
		<dc:creator>Catharina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Kinloch girl made a mistake. She
could have just walked away but she didn&#039;t.
She sued the police and started something
bigger. Someone in Abbotsford tried to do 
the very same thing.  Pushing your luck is wrong
young lady.  Most people earn their money. 
I really hope that you get what you really and truly
deserve in YOUR life.  Poor judgment and greed only
go so far in this world.  You should rethink your actions
next time.  UNDERAGE AND DRUNK AS A FEMALE/MALE IS
ALWAYS ASKING FOR TROUBLE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kinloch girl made a mistake. She<br />
could have just walked away but she didn&#8217;t.<br />
She sued the police and started something<br />
bigger. Someone in Abbotsford tried to do<br />
the very same thing.  Pushing your luck is wrong<br />
young lady.  Most people earn their money.<br />
I really hope that you get what you really and truly<br />
deserve in YOUR life.  Poor judgment and greed only<br />
go so far in this world.  You should rethink your actions<br />
next time.  UNDERAGE AND DRUNK AS A FEMALE/MALE IS<br />
ALWAYS ASKING FOR TROUBLE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://whining.weaselhut.net/2008/01/23/bad-cop-no-doughtnut/comment-page-1/#comment-8603</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This girl was underage and drunk in public. If she was
not picked up that night, she might have been assaulted
by someone on the street. If she was smart she would not
have been drinking in the first place. Also one or two friends
tagging along never hurts. Her mother did not raise her
the right way. Where were her sister or father?  She was
only looking for EASY MONEY three years later. It is just
a way to get some attention. She deserves one or two lessons on morals and values not a chunk of change
from taxpayers.  Always take good care of your babies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This girl was underage and drunk in public. If she was<br />
not picked up that night, she might have been assaulted<br />
by someone on the street. If she was smart she would not<br />
have been drinking in the first place. Also one or two friends<br />
tagging along never hurts. Her mother did not raise her<br />
the right way. Where were her sister or father?  She was<br />
only looking for EASY MONEY three years later. It is just<br />
a way to get some attention. She deserves one or two lessons on morals and values not a chunk of change<br />
from taxpayers.  Always take good care of your babies!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Wagar</title>
		<link>http://whining.weaselhut.net/2008/01/23/bad-cop-no-doughtnut/comment-page-1/#comment-5734</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Wagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric Carlson and Joan Wagar, A,K,A, Doubleclick and Mrs Dash,( yes those are there nicknames they gave each other.) admitted to poisoning me while I was a plasma donor back in 2005.
Eric Carlson pedofied me behind prison walls and then framed me as a pedophile on march 26th 2007, I caught the crime on a audio recorder I put in Joan&#039;s purse.
there were people in authority helping them with this and nobody in authority will help they pretend nothing happened and refuse to investigate this.
Eric Carlson changed his hair color and his name but this is not hidden, only ignored by the authority&#039;s and media
I&#039;m disabled from being poisoned and the hospitals refuse to admit I&#039;m poisoned.
My Family is in danger from these people and I have no other recorse but to make these charges public.
My name is Terry Wagar,Im from Portland Oregon and I&#039;m backing up these charges.
I have been threatened with harassment charges by a Sargent Walker, She is a portland police officer stationed at the OHSU hospital, for the non crime of reporting a multi murder conspiracy within that hospital.
They dont give a s4!t Joan and Eric was poisoning a plasma donor!
And how many god damn john ray&#039;s in authority are there in portland oregon!
You damn serial killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Carlson and Joan Wagar, A,K,A, Doubleclick and Mrs Dash,( yes those are there nicknames they gave each other.) admitted to poisoning me while I was a plasma donor back in 2005.<br />
Eric Carlson pedofied me behind prison walls and then framed me as a pedophile on march 26th 2007, I caught the crime on a audio recorder I put in Joan&#8217;s purse.<br />
there were people in authority helping them with this and nobody in authority will help they pretend nothing happened and refuse to investigate this.<br />
Eric Carlson changed his hair color and his name but this is not hidden, only ignored by the authority&#8217;s and media<br />
I&#8217;m disabled from being poisoned and the hospitals refuse to admit I&#8217;m poisoned.<br />
My Family is in danger from these people and I have no other recorse but to make these charges public.<br />
My name is Terry Wagar,Im from Portland Oregon and I&#8217;m backing up these charges.<br />
I have been threatened with harassment charges by a Sargent Walker, She is a portland police officer stationed at the OHSU hospital, for the non crime of reporting a multi murder conspiracy within that hospital.<br />
They dont give a s4!t Joan and Eric was poisoning a plasma donor!<br />
And how many god damn john ray&#8217;s in authority are there in portland oregon!<br />
You damn serial killer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bianca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bianca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s back track and consider the facts.

This girl, after sobering up did get a phone call but the phone indeed wasn&#039;t working.  I can see that it may have been reasonable to have the police stay with her.  However, we come back to the point of what they did, which in the end was unreasonable.  If they had been smart, they would have still brought her back, but allowed her to remain in the lobby or maybe somewhere else that wasn&#039;t a small, confined space.  They could have even allowed her to stubbornly remain in the car.  

The excuse given for the use of restraint makes no sense given that she was in a padded cell, and padded cells are reserved for those who are a harm to themselves and others.  Which makes no sense, given that she was put back into the cell after she sobered up.  Of course she felt threatened.  Wouldn&#039;t a reasonable person feel threatened if they knew they had done no wrong?

The police could have still removed the girl from the car but made her sit down in the lobby.  Imagine just how different the outcome would have been if she had been told to wait in the waiting area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s back track and consider the facts.</p>
<p>This girl, after sobering up did get a phone call but the phone indeed wasn&#8217;t working.  I can see that it may have been reasonable to have the police stay with her.  However, we come back to the point of what they did, which in the end was unreasonable.  If they had been smart, they would have still brought her back, but allowed her to remain in the lobby or maybe somewhere else that wasn&#8217;t a small, confined space.  They could have even allowed her to stubbornly remain in the car.  </p>
<p>The excuse given for the use of restraint makes no sense given that she was in a padded cell, and padded cells are reserved for those who are a harm to themselves and others.  Which makes no sense, given that she was put back into the cell after she sobered up.  Of course she felt threatened.  Wouldn&#8217;t a reasonable person feel threatened if they knew they had done no wrong?</p>
<p>The police could have still removed the girl from the car but made her sit down in the lobby.  Imagine just how different the outcome would have been if she had been told to wait in the waiting area.</p>
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